tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post7735767667284673860..comments2023-05-21T03:27:16.932-07:00Comments on No really, this is fun.: Schwalbe Marathon Supremes - Making the Cut?cyclotouristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-23051865863364010922012-10-11T20:46:08.778-07:002012-10-11T20:46:08.778-07:00I have JBs on my racey bike. They're great. Bu...I have JBs on my racey bike. They're great. But at 2mm narrower and $60 more per tire... not that much greater.cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-66709965718039776012012-10-11T19:15:24.343-07:002012-10-11T19:15:24.343-07:00Any reason in particular you have not just given u...Any reason in particular you have not just given up on the Passelas and bought some Jack Browns?<br /><br />I have a set of Vittoria Randonneur Pros that ride and feel somewhat like I recall the Marathon Supreme. In a few weeks they will be coming off to ride on some Voyager Hypers I have waiting in the wings. If you remind me, the Pros can be yours for the cost of shipping, or sit on my shelf until you make it out here for a rideRob At Ocean Air Cycleshttp://oceanaircycles.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-29093423551758679122012-10-10T12:47:47.634-07:002012-10-10T12:47:47.634-07:00I think sidewall construction has a bigger impact ...I think sidewall construction has a bigger impact on road feel than tread thickness. No proof. <br />I can't deal with the Pasela sidewall failures, either, but maybe I'll go back to them and figure if they last half as long as a $60 tire, then they're "worth" $30, so if I only paid $20 for them I still come out ahead...<br /><br />Maybe the real answer is to shave down the tread, so they're worn to the cord at the same time the sidewall fails!<br />I don't see any downside (goathead) to this plan at all, do you (goathead)?<br /><br />I have Schwalbe Marathons (47s, actual 41s). They don't feel super zippy, but I like the fatness. I may go with JB Greens, or Cypres tires for my commuting. Philiphttp://www.biketinker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-11835873052091115522012-10-09T15:23:34.231-07:002012-10-09T15:23:34.231-07:00The Supremes are definitely more worn than the Pas...The Supremes are definitely more worn than the Paselas, but the Paselas do have a bit of wear on them. This is the front, which is the less-worn of the set. But even if it was new @ 425g, that's only 15g less than the listed weight for the Supremes.<br /><br />I think a lot of that is in the sidewalls which definitely feel sturdier in the Supremes. That's the weak point on the Paselas, but also which let them feel relatively zippy in the 35mm size. <br /><br />Puncture protection is probably better in the Supremes, I couldn't say.<br /><br />It was fun doing a compare and contrast though! Thanks for being a part of this grand experiment!cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-24381360123879057842012-10-09T14:37:51.255-07:002012-10-09T14:37:51.255-07:00David:
Schwalbe lists a weight of 440 grams for t...David:<br /><br />Schwalbe lists a weight of 440 grams for the 35 MS, so it was indeed quite worn. The ride difference may be sidewall construction. I started looking at heavier construction tires after ripping up the sidewalls on Paselas. Your mounting issue is a true PITA, especially of you have to fix a flat. On the A 719 Mavic rim they mount up by hand, & only need a lever to get them started coming off. <br /><br />A new pair would definitely be more flat resistant, but at $71 apiece, I can understand your reluctance to experiment further. Especially with the ride quality & mounting shortcomings you encountered. <br /><br />It's always good to have more data on hand, so in that respect the experiment was successful.<br /><br />dougPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com