tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post6750764211702243285..comments2023-05-21T03:27:16.932-07:00Comments on No really, this is fun.: Grand Bois Cypres - follow up to the follow upcyclotouristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-53879181846367786022012-08-14T21:31:29.987-07:002012-08-14T21:31:29.987-07:00Hi Richard, I wonder if that's just too much w...Hi Richard, I wonder if that's just too much weight/pressure for the Hetres. They are so highly praised by people under "normal" conditions, might be outside their recommended usage?cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-78293098456831457362012-08-14T12:34:56.447-07:002012-08-14T12:34:56.447-07:00I've had exactly this problem with multiple He...I've had exactly this problem with multiple Hetres (both front and rear) on a tandem. Similar roads, 360lbs, 80psi F&R. Interestingly, the tubes were fine, but the tires get chewed up when metal fenders touch the tire cystsRichard Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-88955511072706219342012-08-06T22:58:44.879-07:002012-08-06T22:58:44.879-07:00He swears a lot, what can I say...
I hear you on t...He swears a lot, what can I say...<br />I hear you on the P-Rs. I might actually try out some Rolly-Pollies. If not, Paselas are always available. Some people absolutely hate them but I think they're great.cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-34902880391132405012012-08-06T06:26:41.551-07:002012-08-06T06:26:41.551-07:00It's me again, the same guy with the Challenge...It's me again, the same guy with the Challenge Triathlon problem. Tell your friend to stop swearing! Seriously, I also tried a pair of P-Rs and I got the same center bulge in the tread, albeit a smaller one, after riding a gravel trail. There are some parts of the trail that are pretty rough but nothing too serious. This happened last Friday; came home and noticed a small bulge in the rear when I took the bike off the rack. Pulled the tire and the casing had separated/torn. The only hole in the tread was a small pinhole about an inch away from the tread separation so that wasn't the cause. I must have caused internal damage to the tire going over a bump but there really weren't any bumps out of the ordinary. Only conclusion I can reach is that Challenge tries are just too fragile. Back to Paselas for me.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-21397886835763872012-03-21T23:45:21.609-07:002012-03-21T23:45:21.609-07:00I usually throw away Paselas due to sidewall probl...I usually throw away Paselas due to sidewall problems before the tread is fully worn. In fact they're usually at the point that they feel really fast & supple due to the thinner tread. But the sidewalls get brittle and have lots of small cuts and gashes by that point and I don't want to trust them any longer. But they're $15 tires so that doesn't really bother me, know what I mean :-) <br /><br />A friend of mine swears by the Challenge P-Rs and I'm interested in trying them. Right now I'm using Jack Browns and I like the way they roll, but can feel the extra mass. If/when I go back to narrower tires, I'll give the P-Rs a try for sure.cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-14428848472820313352012-03-21T12:33:28.326-07:002012-03-21T12:33:28.326-07:00I know this is an old post but I've had no pro...I know this is an old post but I've had no problems with several Paselas, both skin wall and black wall and both plain and TG. What I did have a problem with is a Challenge Triathlon, which had a big bulge right smack in the middle of the tread. The casing separated just like your grand bois. I loved the feel of the Triathlon, am considering buying Parigi Roubaixs but may just stick with Paselas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-13263095494727137922009-12-29T07:39:19.484-08:002009-12-29T07:39:19.484-08:00I have NEVER heard or read anything but praise for...I have NEVER heard or read anything but praise for the Hetre. Other than price, I wouldn't hesitate!cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-70764781374332205212009-12-29T06:08:18.556-08:002009-12-29T06:08:18.556-08:00We appreciate the update and the thorough document...We appreciate the update and the thorough documentation. I'm very close to making a Hetre purchase and your report, along with others, on the Grand Bois tires has made me hesitate. I'm pleased to read your comment that "Hetres do not have this reputation" and will probably proceed.Ponderohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16042079750126434523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-13476338860576901612009-12-27T10:01:12.176-08:002009-12-27T10:01:12.176-08:00It was on Tourguards that I had the sidewall rips....It was on Tourguards that I had the sidewall rips. Finally had to replace it after a long like, but with some tread left still. I agree though, can't beat the TGs!cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-55911306783937973992009-12-27T09:48:35.620-08:002009-12-27T09:48:35.620-08:00I've used Pasela TourGuards (26 x 1.25) on my ...I've used Pasela TourGuards (26 x 1.25) on my All-Rounder since I built it up three years ago and have never had a problem. Great tire, more-than-decent ride for the additional protection, at a reasonable cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-4215450531116175462009-12-27T08:39:41.185-08:002009-12-27T08:39:41.185-08:00I've heard of Panaracer Paselas having sidewal...I've heard of Panaracer Paselas having sidewall problems (in fact I've had them to a small amount) but I don't think they or the other Panaracer models (Fattys, RPs, RTs, etc) have the casing split problem like the Cypres are known for. I'm only one data point in this conversation though. I'm well aware of that and am avoiding blanket statements about these or other tires. As I mentioned, I hope these work out fine as I really like them more than any tire I've ever used!cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-77897667994865255682009-12-27T08:31:06.272-08:002009-12-27T08:31:06.272-08:00Cypres is probably not the only panaracer tire tha...Cypres is probably not the only panaracer tire that has this problem. My kogswell runs Fatty Rumpkin and the rear tire got punctured twice, both times by nails. I thought maybe the tire is wearing a little thin after 2500 miles of use, so I rotate the tire to the front (and front to the back). I notice that when I ride on very smooth road that the bike sort of bumps at one particular point, and upon further inspection, I found also a bulge on the tire--not on the sidewall, though. Now I have to get a replacement for it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03991895435591324772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-55610137170166960982009-12-27T08:26:58.215-08:002009-12-27T08:26:58.215-08:00Yea, I'm kinda' disappointed about it but ...Yea, I'm kinda' disappointed about it but have high hopes for it not happening again. Word on the internets is that they either last wonderfully for a few thousand miles, or develop splits & bulges and fail rather fast. The Hetres do not have this reputation and folks only speak highly of them. In fact, I'm considering converting this bike to 650B just so I can put some Hetres on it! That'll be down the line a bit when I can invest in a new wheelset for it in that size.<br /><br />I have run Paselas a LOT over the last decade, and never any problems other than some sidewall cuts recently. They go on forever and feel really lively even though they're a bit heavy.<br /><br />Congrats again on the Sam!!!!cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1668193154749578832.post-2880771263927572422009-12-27T02:44:23.979-08:002009-12-27T02:44:23.979-08:00Oooh, not good; sorry to hear about this! I am th...Oooh, not good; sorry to hear about this! I am thinking of getting the white Grand Bois Hetre 650B x 40mm for a soon-to-be mine Rivendell Sam H. and am hoping they will perform better.<br /><br />I have 27" x 32mm <a href="http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2009/10/sandy-fire-trails-meet-road-tires.html" rel="nofollow">Pasela Tourguards on my vintage Motobecane mixte</a>, and those have had no flats so far, after maybe 500 miles over the course of 5 months in mixed terrain.Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.com